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The Supermen Lovers

Say No More

A track from The Supermen Lovers' third album Between the Ages, composed and produced by Guillaume Atlan, which led the Fantasma Disco EP with remixes by Jupiter and A.N.D.Y. and a video drawn by nearly twenty designers.

Review

Genre and Mood

The Supermen Lovers’ Say No More comes from Between the Ages, an album Discogs files under Euro house, disco and downtempo, and it led an EP filed simply as house. The feelings here are playful and heartfelt, taken from the one description of it we found: Gizmodo called its video “part pop culture parade, part earnest plea”.

Song Summary

Guillaume Atlan composed and produced the song, with arrangements by FM. Majolino and Gennaro Nocerino, and it is the ninth of sixteen tracks on the album, 3:29 long. Between the Ages leans on guest voices from 1980s funk, Rick Bailey of Delegation and Norma Jean Wright of Chic among them, but Say No More credits no guest singer: the EP’s digital credits name The Supermen Lovers as the vocalist.

Musical Breakdown

No source we found describes this recording or gives its times, so this part keeps to its versions and credits.

The Album Version

The original runs 3:29, mixed by Emmanuel Desmadryl and Hervé Bordes. The video here is the label’s upload of this album track.

The Remixes

The Fantasma Disco EP of 26 March 2012 put the original first and added remixes by A.N.D.Y. and Jupiter and a version titled Schokodub, all between five and seven minutes long.

Concepts in Focus

A remix EP is how a dance producer sends one song into many clubs at once. Fantasma Disco took Say No More, an album track, and surrounded it with longer versions by other producers for DJs to choose from; Jupiter’s remix went on to the 2012 Deluxxx edition of the album.

The music video was directed by Adrien de Grivel and designed by Ménage à Trois with a long list of other designers. Gizmodo counted nearly 20 designers “creating a cavalcade of modern icons”, and warned readers that the clip is not safe for work.

Artistic Context

The Supermen Lovers is the Parisian producer Guillaume Atlan, who studied piano at a conservatory for eight years and named the project after Johnny Guitar Watson’s Superman Lover. His 2001 single Starlight reached number two in France and in the UK. After meeting Rick Bailey in 2008 he made an album with funk artists of the 1980s; Between the Ages came out on 7 November 2011 with La Tebwa, alongside The Supermen Lovers, Herr Styler, Cristine – C’est bon.

Impact and Reception

Wikipedia notes a positive critical reaction to three tracks of the album, Say No More, C’est Bon and Take a Chance. Its remixes and its video gave the song a second round in 2012, and The Supermen Lovers – Moments followed. Play the album version first, then a remix, and hear what each producer keeps.

Learn from this track

Introductory

What you will learn

  • Explain how one album track can become the lead of an EP built from its remixes.
  • Describe how a music video made by many designers can work as a collage of pop culture.
  • Place Say No More in the career of Guillaume Atlan, from the French house hit Starlight to the 1980s funk of Between the Ages.

Listening guide

  1. the original The 3:29 album version, composed and produced by Guillaume Atlan and arranged with FM. Majolino and Gennaro Nocerino.
  2. the remixes The remixes by Jupiter and A.N.D.Y. and the Schokodub version on the Fantasma Disco EP, each longer than the original, against the album cut.
  3. the video Adrien de Grivel's video, designed by nearly twenty designers, which Gizmodo called part pop culture parade, part earnest plea.

Concepts in this track

music video

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A short film made to accompany a song. Since MTV it has shaped how songs are remembered, and on YouTube it is often the main way a song is heard.

remix

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A new version of a recording made by reworking its parts: changing the beat, harmony, tempo or structure, often by another producer. A remix can turn a ballad into a club track.

Listen next, and why

Questions for discussion

  1. An EP of remixes gives DJs several versions of one song. Why would an artist lead with the original anyway?
  2. Gizmodo heard the video as both a parade of modern icons and an earnest plea. Can a song be playful and sincere at once?
  3. Atlan made Between the Ages with funk singers of the 1980s, yet Say No More credits no guest. What changes when the producer keeps a song for himself?

References

  1. Wikipedia. The Supermen Lovers. Encyclopedia
  2. Discogs. The Supermen Lovers - Between The Ages (2011). Database
  3. Discogs. The Supermen Lovers - Fantasma Disco EP (2012). Database
  4. MusicBrainz. Say No More (recording). Database
  5. Gizmodo. The Supermen Lovers: Say No More (NSFW) (2012). Article
  6. La Tebwa. The Supermen Lovers - Say No More (video) (2012). Video
  7. The Supermen Lovers - Topic. Say No More (Fantasma Disco). Video
  8. La Tebwa. The Supermen Lovers - Say no more (2011). Video

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